searchs. by the way, a lot of this material has been made public by the january 6th congressional committee. now we ll see how the judge views this case and whether she thinks she can get it to trial before the november 2024 election. kristy, based on the limited information we know right now, what information can you glean about where the judge will land here? do you think the judge will keep in mind the georgia case and fani willis says she wants to bring this to trial as early as march 4th. i m not surprised the judge has rejected both schedules. the government s schedule is too aggressive. provides less than one month from when discovery is substantially complete, less than one month from that date to make pretrial motions. that s very quick. usually you have at least three months to review substantially complete discovery before you make your motions. but the defense s schedule is
she began the hearing by saying both sides are incorrect in their assessments of when this case could go to trial. it s unrealistic to think it could go to trial as soon as january as the special counsel wanted. certainly not realistic to delay until april 2026. we await to see when judge chutkan thinks this case should go to trial, what s a reasonable date. the tea leaves are looking like, she says, sometime in the spring or summer of next year. based on what you said, prior to be told to take the temperature down, that john lauro was saying for a federal prosecutor to suggest we can go to trial in four months is not only absurd, but a violation of the obligation to due justice. kristy, 12.8 million pages sounds like a lot. it was done in five different rounds here. the defendant, the trump team, they have certain resources not all defendants have, right?
public interest in mind. she said delay is not an uncommon defense tactic. not only is it not uncommon, it s clear in many cases delay is his number one tactic, in the atlanta case, in the federal cases. his lawyers and pressed and pressed and pressed for delays and delays and delays in these cases. kristy, we know trump hasn t been shy with the delay, shutting the cases down. is that something you think judge chutkan will be weighing? absolutely. the consequent of delay here could not be more serious. if he s able to delay past the election and he wins or another republican candidate wins, they can either pardon if there was a conviction, or if there s not a conviction yet, they can tell their attorney general to dismiss the case. so the consequences for the federal cases of delay means all of this can go away. the state cases don t have the same there s not the same ability to shut them down, to pardon them.
defendant. i think that will go first and will go sometime in the first half of 204. ken, i want to ask you something that judge chutkan just said on the stand, essentially saying setting a trial date should not depend on personal or political obligations here, that the defendant will have to make this work regardless of his schedule. does this track with what we ve heard from judge chutkan in the past? reporter: ashs, lindsey. from the bench, the judge echoed the point kristy just made, the societal interest in a speedy trial. she said mr. trump, like any other defendant will have to arrange his schedule around this criminal proceeding. he s not special because he s running for president. again, she said there s a societal interest in providing a speedy trial, not just a consideration for a defendant. the act was defined, the speedy trial act she means with the