try to do is parcel it out. there s one more piece of news i want to get your action. this is all about sondland who is a trump person. fiona hill saying he was in charge of ukraine and he said on whose authority and he said the president. this is impeachment evidence because of everything that went down. she saw sondland as target for foreign powers basically telling me i can get you into the white house. all this as he makes the bombshell reversal this week. he started by defending the president but conceded the bribery plot saying he told ukraine no u.s. aid money without the investigation trump wanted. that brings us up to is it blurry, are there lies? donald trump backing away as he s done with other people who have served him up to a point because look at this. donald trump recently described sondland as someone he knew to be a good man and a great american and now all of a sudden today he says this.
grand jury, amaze things happen. you make a great point right there. we divided the line in thinking about what the claims are. we saw mulvaney move and sondland. you re adding a detail is every one on the right has been compelled in person to give testimony under oath at this point. mr. mulvaney, ducked that today. absolutely. i know why he ducked it. he knows if he takes an oath and testifies in front of a proceedings whether it s a trial or congress, he knows that he cannot tell the truth. he would have to commit perjury because you don t go from saying in front of millions of people in the united states and throughout the world that it s done all the time, quid pro quo, arms for dirt and then back away. if they put him in a grand jury right now, he would sing like a
let me just tell you, i hardly know the gentleman. this is the man who said there was no quid pro quo. he still says that. he said that i said that. he hasn t changed that testimony. this is the person who you wrote the art of the deal with. he says i don t know them. i lie for a living. he can t tell the truth. he s almost literally at this point incapable of telling the truth. what happens with trump is that anything that arises that in any way alters his self-image, he will reactively come up with something from thin air. now we have we have 13,000 lies but i d like to know how many truths we have.
point about the infamous call. there was no quid pro quo. there was nothing. did he mention to me many pass the corruption that related to the dnc server? absolutely. there was no quid pro quo at all. what you just described is a quid pro quo? we do that all the time with foreign policy. there was no quid pro quo. that s why we held up the money. to paraphrase a saying the fact checks are coming from inside the white house. that s a lot of heat on mick mulvaney who has pulled the full mulvaney, walked it back and is under demand to explain all this. by the way, you kind of hurt your privilege claims when you go out and do big press conference about the stuff you might argue is executive privilege. a no show before congress. today he informed them quote one minute before he was due to testify that the white house ordered him not to appear.
and more clear and the meaning of what is being said be very vivid to everybody. i think there are two tracks here. i think there is the actual set of facts. if you look at the set of facts it s as if we re having the thanksgiving parade and trump has gotten onto fifth avenue and he has literally shot a series of people in cold blood and all those people who have been testifying are the parade floats okay? they have stayed in tact. a lot of people have died and a lot of people were there to witness it. it s very clear what happened. it s an open and shut case at this point. the second track, however, is that surrounding those eyewitnesss are trump supporters who he accurately said and continues to be the case would ignore it if i shot people on