hand. tell me what happened here. ok, well, something happened to anna. what happened to her? anna s dead. what, what? what are you talking about? anna s dead. when. how how how is that possible? reporter: the cops, who at that point hadn t revealed how she died, noticed that bob, unlike igor, had a strong response. his reaction seemed appropriate. he was upset? he was emotional? yes. my first thoughts were for igor. he s like 20 years old at this time. he just lost his mother. and they told me that he knew, he, you know, knew about what had happened. reporter: bob agreed to follow the cops to the frisco pd in his car for a more formal interview. on their way to the station, the ranger can be heard telling his partner that bob had passed the credibility test. seemed genuine.
conversation, preferred to tell bob about anna when they all went to the police station. but his peristence forced their hand. tell me what happened here. ok, well, something happened to anna. what happened to her? anna s dead. what, what? what are you talking about? anna s dead. when. how how how is that possible? reporter: the cops, who at that point hadn t revealed how she died, noticed that bob, unlike igor, had a strong response. his reaction seemed appropriate. he was upset? he was emotional? yes. my first thoughts were for igor. he s like 20 years old at this time. he just lost his mother. and they told me that he knew, he, you know, knew about what had happened. reporter: bob agreed to follow the cops to the frisco pd in his car for a more formal interview.
but everyone is still also being fairly polite and in how they describe these discussions, a key point being when these two officials, the fbi director and the deputy attorney general go to the white house, the house committee at that point hadn t even voted. but everyone basically knew what the vote was going to be. the writing is on the wall here as to how this is going to play out. but it s going to be painful and it s going to further alienate the white house from the fbi and the white house from the justice department. john heilemann. devlin, there s been a lot of speculation recently, in recent hours, about the where rod rosenstein stands and how secure the ground underneath his feet is. just give us a general sense of where you think that, that story is at this hour. right. look, i think the ice has been getting thinner for him for a while. you know and i think everyone sort of aware of the danger here. because we ve reported before that you know, trump has talked about pr
and that is, and that is seen is that the first cabinet no. that the president has shamed, publicly. and not all of those people left. jeff sessions has been the most publicly shamed, and he remains in the job, obviously tom price, and a few others. to ron s point, i think it s fascinating about tillerson. this was sort of the crowned jewel of the trump cabinet. on the campaign trail he posted we re going to bring in titans of stla no one else could bring in right, right. because of my relationships, i m going to make this happen. and i think people some rolled their eyes and thought carl ikahn is one guy, but tillerson was seen as kind of a make-good by trump. he ran exxon. he agreed to be the top diplomat. this was someone that to trump s point hadn t served in government, and he saw that as an appeal. the i think the problem is ron mentioned this, trump expects total loyalty.
handedly says he created the industry because he was relentless. the powers that be of time magazine decided that they would make the man of the year that particular year the computer of the year. i was transferred to the bureau in san francisco and gradually i began to carbon on to the fact that there were a lot of stories in this part of california between san jose and san francisco about these odd little companies that people on the east coast at that point hadn t heard about and really didn t care about. then i got very interested in apple and steve was of the early characters in the company the most articulate and the most interesting and the artist. steven jobs helped build the first apple computer in his garage. he is now 26 years old and is chairman of the board. there was some debate over whether or not they should use