had a lot of sway in this white house. yes. the first time that government shutdown happened he thought it was a winning issue for him. he was saying people were contacting him, saying, don t give into this, even though we re not getting paid for our jobs. the reality is the president s popularity tanked, by and large polls showed he was the one to blame mostly for this shutdown. as it is now, he s the only person in charge. the shutdown really is in his hands. and people talking to him, conservatives, not happy with this deal, don t see any other way out. they really do not want a shutdown. there s zero appetite for a shutdown in either part on capitol hill from the most liberal folks to the most conservative. the president is sort of boxed in at this point and doesn t have much of an option other than to sign this bill. anita, does that match what
you re hearing, is there a level of seriousness that is governing these talks this time because, after all, we don t want to do that again? i definitely agree there s no appetite at all for a shutdown. here we are a few days before the friday midnight deadline. the president definitely doesn t want a shutdown. so, what can he do? he has this deal in front of him and he can sign that deal. definitely conservatives and his supporters are very upset. that s where this part two comes in where, you know, they re talking about there s been a lot of talk about a national emergency. we re hearing it might not be that but more that he would find money and be spending it on the wall. he actually hinted at that in his tweet earlier this evening where he talks about finding
give into this, even though we re not getting paid for our jobs. the reality is the president s popularity tanked, by and large polls showed he was the one to blame mostly for this shutdown. as it is now, he s the only person in charge. the shutdown really is in his hands. and people talking to him, conservatives, not happy with this deal, don t see any other way out. they really do not want a shutdown. there s zero appetite for a shutdown in either part on capitol hill from the most liberal folks to the most conservative. the president is sort of boxed in at this point and doesn t have much of an option other than to sign this bill. anita, does that match what you re hearing, is there a level of seriousness that is governing these talks this time because, after all, we don t want to do
interesting because given that piece of it, right? even if the president is taking in less of mattis s input, which is what you re talking about in your reporting, do you think, i suspect probably not, that we ll see that level of public shaming that we ve seen with, for example, attorney general jeff sessions, somebody else on whom the president has cooled. this is a president who has a deep affinity for people in the military. yeah. i don t think that we ll see sort of a sessions level treatment of matt mattis is at . it s not that he s cooled on session, he s furious with sessions. he s kind of despised him. for over a year because he holds him responsible for the path of the russia investigation. i think that there are two things happening with mattis. one, i think the president feels very emboldened at this point and doesn t like the narrative of, you know, people advising him or sort of control him. and there was a sense early on that, you know, the generals were keeping hi
portrait of you that would be a big disaster. and everybody looks the same. all right, i see her too, and i will go three. this video reminds me of long when he tries to make a point and doesn t quite get there. [laughter] so close, but yet so far. give it up. i d also like to thank donna hahn and greg han for sending us cookies today, they were delicious. i don t know what that means, as to who ate the cookies? i ate them. i m also on the show tonight with martha mcallen. the story? check out what happened last night in cumberland, wisconsin. check this out. okay, guess what, it s a prank.