institutions will provide secular services working in collaboration and partnership and transparency with us. this is the model, this is the pro poe type. ashley: i interviewed the ref rent this past weekend and it will take people like him who know the system to help the cities. so these other cities, they need to follow suit and see what he s doing. carley: what an incredible, uplifting story. when you look at it that way, this problem doesn t have to be hard to solve. strong two parent families, school of choice, safe leaders like reverend rivers helping out. that s an incredible story and obviously lawrence did such a great job. ashley: a time for the good, bad and ugly. the good, 76ers center andre drummond reminds us not all heroes wear capes. the nba all star player darting into a pool to share his