conservatism. i think he s not named kevin mccarthy. if his name came up, members would vote for him because it s an easy way to get rid of mccarthy and have another candidate i don t think scalise is going to have an easier time. but he is more the fact you talk to house republicans. they really value the talking point that he was shot as a badge of credibility for scalise. against this idea of democratic extremism. they want to have this argument that the extremism is on both sides. that incident with scalise is huge. we should be careful not to poe l politicize it too much. he handled that with such grit and such grace in the aftermath. i think he earned a lot of respect from people on both
0 i don t think voting tonight is productive. let people work more. reporter: in a positive sign from mccarthy, some of the opponents came out sounding positive, including scott perry of pennsylvania sounded that he said talks had been productive as well as congressman chip roy. they had been asking for more sway over the speakership. some of them had asking to encourage mccarthy s super pac to stay out of certain primaries. they did agree to do that. that may have won some. his path, very narrow. there are at least four republicans who are almost certainly going to vote against him. they absolutely will not vote for kevin mccarthy, including matt gaetz. he can only look forward to lose four republican votes. one more says they will not vote for him, mccarthy cannot get there, which is why these talks are so critical, expected to continue through tonight until tomorrow. the house reconvenes at that time. he had given up a lot to get the votes he has gotten thus far. how much mo