was responsible for this, the white house very late last night put out a statement saying, you know, that regardless of what the facts end up proving, this is all happening within the context of russian training, russian arms supply and russia now needs to it was almost the exact opposite it was like the mirror image of the statement putin put out. let s take it back a moment to poroshenko, obama and putin on d-day in normandy. that was the big day of the promise that we were going to de-escalate and there could be a cease-fire. for putin now to be saying let s have a cease-fire is the height of hypocrisy. i want to back up 48 hours. 48 hours ago, wednesday evening the president announces new sanctions against russia and a lot of the without european help this time. basically merkel and cameron were on board but france and italy were not. so the u.s. went alone. they wanted to try to get everybody on.
week, correct? reporter: that s correct. they shot down a ukrainian cargo plane on monday. they also shot down, and it would take a missile like this to do that, to shoot down a ukrainian jet fighter so there s no question that the missile systems are there. in some respects people say, look, whoever pulled the trigger, it was still a russian missile system provided to the separatists by the russians and, therefore, making the russians and vladimir putin culpable. absolutely. jim miklaszewski at the pentagon, thanks very much. a couple of new developments to tell you about really quickly. we have confirmed, the fbi and ntsb have told us that they will send investigators to ukraine to assist in the investigation into the crash of mh-17. joining me now, nbc s chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell, and michael leiter, a former director of the national counterterrorism center and nbc national security
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leverage in this situation. but i did have a senior official tell me yesterday was a bad day for vladimir putin. a very bad day. it was a bad day for vladimir putin in every regard. now there s a question as to how strong are the europeans going to be. what will angela merkel do. merkel and cameron both spoke today, david cameron, the british prime minister. with so many europeans involved in this crash and this escalation, they cannot sit on their hands, they have got to do something. at the u.n. security council meeting now this afternoon scheduled, you know what russia is going to do. they re going to posture and veto. that s just providing us footage to put on tv. i m sorry, because we know what s going to happen. and there s the security and cooperation in europe. their investigators had already been held hostage, had been kidnapped by separatists in crimea and eastern ukraine already. so they want to send people in, monitors on the ground, but there s nervous as anyone else
officials we re talking to have pretty much ruled out the ukrainians. they said they didn t even have those systems in that region. but one important issue is that intelligence over the past several weeks, u.s. intelligence, has watched as the russians have shipped heavy artillery, tanks and these buk missile systems into ukraine. there are reports that the russian military was also training the separatists in the use of those missiles. so when u.s. officials say, look, we don t know whether it was fired by the separatists or the russians, you know, it could possibly be that russian trainers were still at those missile sites with the separatists in ukraine. but that s all a mystery right now. the only thing they re certain of is that it was one of these surface-to-air missiles that brought down the plane. and, mik, they do know that they have shot other planes down over the last week. that s why they know they have been doing this over the last