week ago but no legislative text. we will see where it goes. lucas tomlinson live from the north lawn, thanks a lot. gop strategist and american conservation coalition vice president of government affairs and al, democratic strategist and former hillary clinton campaign national finance team member. gentlemen, in studio, it s great to have you and happy father s day. you too. mike: all right, let s dig into some numbers. issues voters say republicans handle better, inflation plus 19, border security plus 19, crime plus 13, trust me on this, the graphic will come up soon, foreign policy plus 8, preserve and democracy plus 1. al, how difficult are these numbers? pretty difficult, mike. but, look, this happens in every midterm. it happens to president trump. he lost congress. it happened to president bush and clinton and obama. it s not atypical to lose one or
personal finance and ask how people feel about things. 47% of people feel they re falling behind. that number is increasing holding steady at 42% and this is one i m sure you would pick up on. this is a question of issues voters say republicans will handle better. inflation plus 19, border security plus 19, crime plus 13, even foreign policy at plus 8. so when you look at that and you are surveying the situation, we know the house is likely to return to republicans but is there something else going on here even at maybe state and local elections as well? across the country. a lot of this is being driven by republican governors. we re seeing a mass exodus from blue states to red states. you look at states like florida and texas and iowa and tennessee where republican governors have really kept their economies open and kept kids in school. you look at glenn youngkin in virginia. nine out of the top 10 state
an economy that they don t have a lot of confidence in. take a look at the dow. down 409 points. we get into the final hour of trading. these numbers that you re looking at on the screen right now, you re plus 14 and plus 19 in favor of republicans when asked which party is better at handling the issues of the economy and inflation. that is a big indicator right there. we re still several months away. that s where americans are and that s a washington post poll that those numbers come from. how about these numbers? 94%, pretty much the entire country says yes, i m either concerned or upset about inflation and where it s going. with that, we bring in karl rove. the former deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and mark penn here with us. great to have you with us today. i want to kick it off by showing
democrats because donald trump and the big lie aptdnd they re worried about that. not so much, because 75% of republicans say that the country, the democracy is under attack. but what that tells you is that lots of republicans have believed the big lie. they think that donald trump did win the election and democracy is under attack because that would reflect the exact opposite is true. it s not hard to answer the question, you know, what does this stem from? yeah. it s not that complicated, right? at least i don t think it is. confidence that the u.s. elections reflect the will of the people. normally there s not that many slam dunk questions you ask in a poll. in january, this was plus 19. that s a terrible 19, but plus
19 right here. more people saying, yes, elections reflect the will of the people. now, minus 4. the reason is simple, the big lie. it s working, unfortunately. this is a 23-point swing in between january and now. i want to show you one more slide here. is it likely that u.s. elections will be overturned for partisan reasons? again, this is the kind of question that in the past you might hear 75% no, 25% yes. now, in 51%, a majority of the country believies it is likely that a u.s. election will be overturned for partisan reasons. this is not a partisan problem. this is a problem problem for the country. you mentioned this all started with the big lie put forth by former president trump and his allies. it continues to get more and