phone. there s no question that china and russia are listening to rudy giuliani s calls. if you re russia and hearing on the phone calls, hey, we need this thing about the bidens to ramp up to have something to lay on biden next year, ukraine s a perfect place to do it, what a great time to put a call in to trump and say, hey, be careful of the ukraine, it is not what you think and then lo and behold we re not gone to the inauguration, not getting a meeting at the white house an you have to give me this before i give you that. deja vu all over again. this is the play run with russia in 16 and save donald trump the step of saying, russia, if you re listening. exactly what you made me think. a dimension to this notion. we don t know that s how it played out but something convinced this president to ignore the advice that he was getting from across the intelligence community, from all of our foreign diplomats.
i don t think this is a massive, massive crisis. it was a terrible disappointmen disappointment, for all of us, for you, for me. so we are saying now, well, what do we do in the future? if somebody wants to say something about a bishop, they have a place to go. let me ask another question. i think something that is emerging from all of this is the terror of bishops before bishops. i think that is something that has to be addressed, how bishops care for their brother bishops, cardinals from their brother cardinals. laura: that is a vatican consultant on communications, worrying about bishops to bishops. what about the victims? here s what needs to happen, laura. we needed an independent, lay run, forensic audit, a financial audit, of every diocese in the united states, and maybe the world, and then you need a late panel, and power by the vatican of prosecutors, independent prosecutors, with canonical officials, cardinals, to investigate every diocese.
crisis in the church? let s listen to what he said. i don t think this is a massive, massive crisis. it was a terrible disappointment, for all of us, for you, for me. he was a friend to us. so we are saying now, well, what do we do in the future? if somebody wants to say something about a bishop, they have a place to go. let me ask another question. i think something that is emerging from all of this is the care of bishops for bishops. i think that is something that has to be addressed, how bishops care for their brother bishops, cardinals for their brother cardinals. laura: that s father tom, a vatican consultant on communications worrying about bishops to bishops. what about the victims? here is what needs to happen. we need an independent, lay-run forensic audit, a financial auditve of every diocese in the united states and maybe the world and then you need a lay panel, and power by the vatican
by steve bannon? yeah. again, someone i think jonathan or someone referred to as aggressive. actually, when you re aggressive, when you re fighting, it shows your weakness, shows your insecurity. they are not confident about the way this investigation is going to go. that s why they re lashing out around aiming for everyone under the son. is there anybody in the white house who the president mites list listen. you need to keep steve bannon. you fired him. but mr. president this will have no bearing of any legal disposition of your family or inner circle. perhaps the chief of staff although he himself has brk a source of controversy. you might suggest jared kushner or ivanka trump. tell me about jared curb her.