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arrangements. right. she was making the argument, look my job as secretary of state you don t want a secretary of state who takes a personal, direct day-to-day interest in planning security for every embassy, every consulate around the world. she was saying you don t want me involved. you want security professionals doing than pompeo, correct me if i m wrong, he ended by saying leaders lead, that was his response, saying i would take that to mean, you should have been directly involved. i thought that was an exchange where she certainly held her ground well. what chuck was saying resonated with me, too, hillary clinton in adversarial setting we forgot how good she is. in 2008 race for president, 25 democrat debates, we remember barack obama beat her for the nomination but she won 24 3/4 of the debates. only thing questioned her up question on driver licenses in philadelphia in october 2007. and that lesson is, she s really good in settings but when she stumbles, it s a big deal
d.c. well, in washington, a year of planning security for the inauguration is coming down to its final moments. the security service is promising security will and won t see, a major command center is set up in an undisclosed washington suburb and thousands of officers and national guard troops are arriving right now from across the country. nbc s justice correspondent pete williams is joining me now. pete, good to see you, my friend. nice to be here. what is the difference between now and 2009? do you see significant difference in security? largely in crowd control because they re expecting about a third as many people to attend the inaugural here as were here four years ago when there were roughly 2 million people here. about 600,000 expected this time. give you a little metric. about 3,000 charter buses parked at rfk stadium four years ago. that s the approved parking space, people get off and walk to the capitol. this year, about 1,100 buses have made reservations. that gives