because of course they need the resources pray they want to be able to utilize it. we saw this in a case where they went to the plaisance at apple, give us the information. they want to be able to unlock and break encryption. apple finds out they were able to get away and so it s a constant struggle and balance between personal rights and privacy and the government s obligation for public safety and national security. where is the fair balance between the two? where is it okay to say this is a justification to do an intel grab in the interest of public safety and when should they be stopped? lisa: juan has been making faces. juan: everyone who thinks anyone who thinks they have privacy today is a fool. you have no privacy. i have been threatened with jail because as a reporter, i saw something. i didn t want to give the government my notebook but they said you will go to jail unless you give us that notebook and tell us what you saw.