and ari fleischer are with us. you know, karl, you would think that he would ve learned the plagiarism thing. the the koenig speech is funny when you play it side-by-side, and yet he did it again with the climate change, i don t know if that is worth or the fact that he felt the need to capitulate to ocasio-cortez. well, you put your finger on two things here. one is first of all, i suspect he having been utterly humiliated in 1988 and his presidential hoax and it the presidential hopes dashed, it took him 20 years for him to climb back on the national stage and become barack obama s running mate, i suspect that he learned the plagiarism issue. there is something even deeper here. his campaign staff obviously did not. nobody paid attention to, are we cribbing stuff out of other people s documents without giving it attribution.
steve: we will take you back there live in a moment. first let s talk a little domestic politics. brian: 2020 frontrunner for now joe biden revealing climate change plan which included net zero emissions by 2050 and rejoining the paris agreement. katie: soon after he was accused plagiarizing parts of his new climate platform which would cost trillions over the next 10 years. steve: that plagiarism thing again. here to break it down is senior fellow at the national taxpayer union maddy duppler. good morning. good morning. you know, it looks like out biden campaign had to admit some of the framework was lifted from other activist the. in hindsight they said we made a mistake but this is his plan. exactly. not just the plagiarism that is being recycled here for the biden campaign. a lot of the ideas coming out of obama-biden presidency. they wanted to go to all new
andy: someone on twitter pointed out that if president obama did that, everyone would have thought it was charming. that was me. andy: no, it wasn t someone funny. dave, you said there s no way that trump could have picked to the guy because he loves the sound of music. you said that was too ridiculous. really? nothing is too ridiculous, but even that would be a lot for him. andy: you said he is loyal to his people, and if flynn leaves there s going to be some pretense. i think he ll end up resigning because he doesn t want to be a distraction. just like, when she changed her mind during the whole plagiarism thing. when it turned out she plagiarized big parts of her book, she said she s not going to join after all.
that she had actually just she or her speechwriter had plagiarized large sections of michelle obama s speech at a previous convention. she then, by the way, went out of her way to bash michelle obama and said michelle obama should look in the mirror, though neither interviewer asked her about the plagiarism thing. i think the it was a different style of interview. i think she she has in many ways accepted her husband s narrative. and it s not a false narrative. that there is one part of the media that is friendly to her, ie fox, and to him. and there s a part that is not friendly, you know, cnn, which her husband calls the clinton news network. so i think that she was, you know, i think she felt like with anderson cooper, that she was going to be perhaps interrogated. i think she didn t feel as comfortable, as visibly comfortable as she did with the fox interviewer. one thing she said, she was talking about donald s behavior.
week for him. it has. but the guy is nothing if not a survivor politically. i mean look everybody who counts him out in 1988 writing the political obituary of joe biden after the plagiarism thing, he s done pretty well for himself. in 88 if i said vice presidewi vice president in 2012, i don t think a lot of people would say yes. he will do what s expected of him, to your point, going to hammer romney. mike feldman, your put your al gore hat on. 12 years ago you were trying to find distance from bill clinton. now you have barack obama who literally rearranged his schedule so that the country could see him hug bill clinton. right. what a change in bill clinton? well, also a change in the cycle. al gore in 2000 was running for president having served as the number two to bill clinton. he had to be his own man. it s a very different performance art involved in that. yes, naturally he had to step out on his own and talk really distinguish himself in that new role