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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 03:36:00

to stay in the deal. he signed the deal, and then, he left. but emma bonino and piu europa decided to stay. but what do you think the italian people make of it, when you do deals in the centre left, and then, they collapse within literally days? i think they will sanction the one who decided to leave the deal. isn t the biggest problem of all, coming back to the mathematics and you say this election is about more than mathematics but isn t the biggest problem of all, that you have ruled out working with the one party that might make a real difference to your chances of overall success? that is the five star movement. you know, er. five stars movement, and conte, the leader of the five star movement, decided to topple draghi s government. we were the pillar of draghi s government. do you think is possible to say, ok, we will continue, and we will work together if such a divide on the main topic, supporting or toppling a government? so, they decided, they took

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 23:35:00

and he said exactly what you said. then they asked me to come and to try to unify the party, and to change the mood. so, this declaration is exactly what was the situation before. but with respect, my point is it hasn t really changed. for example, you tried to do a deal with the etzioni party, one of the smaller parties on the centre left. you declared you had a deal that was going to help you win this election. within, i think, five days, that deal collapsed. the deal collapsed, but just for one part. the deal was with etzioni and piu europa, two parties united. calenda and emma bonino, together. calenda decided not to stay in the deal. he signed the deal, and then, he left. but emma bonino and piu europa decided to stay. but what do you think the italian people make of it, when you do deals in the centre left, and then, they collapse within literally days? i think they will sanction the one who decided to leave the deal.

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