obligation to help each and every last passenger on board. they can t really do that if they re leaving the ship. they can t do it with a bull horn from the safety of a lifeboat. so i think you re going to see some liability there both on the criminal and the civil side. it s also interesting that south korea s president or leader came out and made a comment like that. you may remember, the charles manson trial was almost derailed when the president made a comment on the potential liability or whether he thought people were guilty or not guilty. it s an interesting things when leaders make a comment on things like liability or criminality. it s something we try to avoid here and apparently in core rather there are different rules. the maritime law for south korea is that the captain has to ensure that his passengers get off safely. nobody said you have to go down with the ship. we ll talk with our captain later on about that legend and where it came from. but as we saw pictures of hi
making it difficult to enter this room. it was important for the divers to reach this room because of the fact a large number of students were believed to be there when this disaster happened. still no word yet about what they re finding in the cafeteria. but with so many students trapped inside, a lot of people here are very fearful of what the news will be as we learned in the coming hours. will ripley, thanks for the update. great reporting for will. i also want to bring in cargo ship captain jim staples and also kade courtly, founder of s.e.a.l. survival. captain, i d like to begin with you. when you hear that kind of news, that the divers have been able to get midship and to that essential cafeteria area, does that bring anything to light for you in terms of the area that they are, the danger for those doing the diving? absolutely, it s very dangerous down there it it s unreasonable to have anybody go to a main place like that in a ship when the ship is in trouble. now we hear
front of parents at a school on their knees apologizing to the parents and water bottles were thrown at them. there was one press report of that. this is part of a custom i think in korea. then we had that one, you know, survivor who was part of the school who hanged himself. yes, also a teacher who was consumed by guilt at the death of the children. but, you know, would you be surprised though that this obviously, this is a liability waiting to happen at this point. perhaps we re still in the mode of trying to find those children s bodies, but you are going to undoubtedly, you re going to undoubtedly seep lawsuits. absolutely. whether we re talking about korean law or u.s. law. when you re what you call a common carrier like the ferry, you are you undertake a responsibility to get those passengers somewhere safely. a lot of people are talking about a captain s obligation to stay with the ship and that s sort of accurate. really most captains have an
iceberg. april 1912. the titanic was on its maiden voyage. when the ship started to sink off the coast of canada, captain smith ordered the crew to prepare lifeboats. all passengers put on your life preservers. leave everything. and they said it was a precaution nary measure. captain smith ordered women and children be evacuated first and helped save more than 700 people. he was on the bridge as the ship disappeared, lost among the 1,500 people who perished. decades later, in 1956, an italian vessel, the andrea doria, collided off another ship off nantucket. the captain made a series of errors in dense fog and heavy traffic. yet when the andrea doria began to sink, the captain tried to make sure all the passengers and crew were evacuated. 46 people died. he wanted to go down with the ship and pay for his mistakes.
passengers who still needed help. look at the picture. you can see him getting off the ship. there s all sorts of those lifeboats right there. all those white bundles to the right of your screen that hadn t been deployed and nobody had been put on board them. i think we like our captains to go down with the ship. we like to know that the person who s running the ship is going to be the last one off. supervising the safety of passengers. in reality, it s a factual judgment you see that as murder? what the south korean leader said, akin to murder? no, it doesn t sound like murder. to me, it sounds like maybe gross negligence. it might be a form of murder. it could be recklessness. making it sound like an intentional murder i think at least under american law wouldn t amount to that but we have to remember the laws are radically different in south korea. cultural attitudes are radically different. those cultures can t be judged by american standards. frankly, that leader is reflec