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joining us now, nbc news chief political analyst, chuck todd, the man behind the article and nbc news correspondent, vaughn hillyard. chuck, when you go back and look at 2020, and why donald trump lost, is there a definitive answer for why he lost? i think if you surveyed political strategists and political scientists, you wouldn t get a definitive answer. i think he lost simply because of covid. there s a lot of people because of what happened after the election with january 6th, they think about his antics, the first impeachment. then we had the second impeachment that sort of took place right after the inauguration. we never really had that sort of consensus, you didn t have the after action reports because you have one party was in denial that they actually lost, so they didn t do an after action report. but in some ways, neither did the democrats and i think that what i feel like i m watching is what the biden campaign thought their theory of the case was in october of

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