i think there s a tribal element to our country today and it s beyond just politics. it s politics, culture, where you lib, your view live, your view of faith h it s all kind of stuff. obviously, there s clicks and money to be made in playing to one of those tribes. it s not all of us. i think we re following, not leading. but we certainly add to it. howie: i would say we re contributing. you have he detailed scenes with pinetta finding out about the intel that bin laden may be hiding in a home in pakistan. you have him briefing obama. was it easier to get people to talk about this 10 years after the event. no doubt about it. first of all, it s not as classified. i talked to almost everybody, hillary clinton, bob gates, mcraven, two of the seals, they were justifyabley proud. it was a great moment, a great intel operation, a great political process, a terrific