met to have this money released? and yes and yes and yes. and if if this is coming from the president, how can the president legally do this. there is an interesting exchange in here where the questioners and i think it s probably one of the attorneys for the committee is trying to pin cooper down on this question of did you ask whether or not this was legal or not. could this be done lawfully? is it a violation of the law? she says sbormt exact phrase, but that s what we re talking about. is it proper, is it legal for this money to be withheld? this is somebody who s been working on this for quite a long time. and then you get into conversations that she has later on with kurt volker, who s a fascinating character in this whole drama, even separately from this who says i think i might have a way to release this aid which everyone else in the whole of government wants. but it s going to involve this statement from the ukrainians. and then the conversation with cooper she comes away thi