appeal them, so now you re absolutely right, trump is coming in and trying to gag pence because pence has said no appeal and he might try and revive not just executive privilege but the speech or debate claim, which i think would go nowhere because that s really held by the vice president and not the president. with respect to executive privilege, i agree with joyce, i think there s no chance this u.s. supreme court will entertain it and executive privilege, trump tried to do it last year with respect to the january 6th investigation, asserting executive privilege. he lost that 8-1 in the supreme court. only clarence thomas was willing to side with president trump the pence one is not materially different, if anything, the case for piercing executive privilege is much stronger i don t see much delay in this i expect court will lose in a matter of days, probably next week, and then they can try and go to the u.s. supreme court and