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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20110125:17:32:00

buy a gun in this country. and i hope that he informs us that part of the reason that he got it is because we don t have a good enough system for catching people like him and preventing them from getting a gun in the first place. and then i hope he then also challenges america to question, if we really can have these kinds of assault weapons, these military-type weapons, in the hands of civilians and if that really makes us safer. and susanna, you fear more gun control laws. tell us why you think the president should stay away from the gun control issue? well, particularly when you re talking about the mental health issue, my husband is a psychologist and he can tell you that approximately 10% of the population will seek mental health care at some point in their lives. you know, unfortunately, it s not illegal to be weird. we cannot predict when those individuals will snap. so i don t want to see people s rights stripped from them before

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20110125:17:33:00

a crime has actually been committed. you just simply can t do that. so, is there any gun control measures that should be put into place, suzanne? well, i think we already currently have quite a few measures that are pretty good measures. we do have background checks. those background checks are enforceable even at gun shows, which you re always hearing about gun shows being a problem, but the fact is, the dealer has to abide by the background checks there as well. well, there is a let s talk about the gun show issue because i know tom is big on this issue. tom, you say this loophole allowed the shooters at columbine to get guns. absolutely. carol, in most states, you can go in to a gun show and buy a gun from the table of a private seller, not a dealer, but a private seller, without a background check. you can be a criminal, you could be mentally deranged, you can be someone who s not allowed to have a gun, and you simply buy from a private seller. now, in colorado, we change

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20110125:17:36:00

mentally incompetent should be able to carry weapons to protect themselves and their loved ones. you know, you mentioned the assault weapons, and i d like to interject something here. i hear that term frequently and i know what perhaps you, and at least many of your listeners, when they hear that word, assault weapon, they re picturing a tommy gun, they re picturing a machine gun that when you pull the trigger, it goes, you know, eh, eh, eh, eh, for lack of a better way of putting it, and that s simply not what a semiautomatic gun is. i carry a semiautomatic gun. most people who have concealed carry or open carry permits carry semiautomatic guns. all it means is that each time you pull the trigger, a bullet comes out. that s all it means. tom, you want to respond? yeah. you know, i find it interesting that on fox news the day of the shooting, one of the anchors said i cannot believe that this would have been anything other than an automatic weapon to have shot this many people in t

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20110125:17:37:00

he was wrong. with a 31-bullet clip, he was able to shoot a lot of people. he did it in less than 15 seconds. there was somebody who was armed there that day. how could he react that quickly? no, he was actually in the building next door. he did, but he came out he was actually in the walgreens next door. he thought he would shoot yeah, and he did stop it. can i finish? go ahead, tom. sure. he did it by tackling. he joined those who tackled him. but the point is that he admitted that at one point, he was ready to fire. he would have shot the man who was holding the gun who had taken it from the shooter, and that s the very point, that many people who are armed are not trained the way our police are to know how to react to situations in that spur of the moment, and they could shoot the wrong person, they can worsen the situation. it s not the answer. it s not the answer. there are many things we can do to keep guns out of the hands of people that shouldn t have the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20110125:17:34:00

that law after columbine. we took it to a vote of the people. 70% of the people in colorado, a pro-gun state, voted for that, and we closed that gun show loophole in colorado. now, that s a loophole in federal law, and for that reason, we should close it at the federal level. there s no reason to allow someone to buy a gun like that. tom, i can understand where suzanne is coming from, too, because you know, there are a lot of mentally unstable people out there underneath the radar, who have never been to a mental health facility that can still buy a gun, even with a background check. that s right. no one is suggesting that just because someone goes to a mental health center that they should not be able to purchase a gun, but the bar is right now raised so high that only the very most serious mentally deranged people are denied a purchase. it s those who are adjudicated mentally ill. we certainly saw in the case of the tucson shooter that he was very seriously ill, and yet, he

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