these thugs. what we did beginning in 1985 or long in there is put these laws to work. what we did by putting them to work, we started to filling the federal prisons with the worst of the worst. i sat down with senator booker, a democrat who worked with republicans to try to reform our criminal justice system. we talked about whether the justice department that wants to roll back some of the obama era progress, desire to end federal oversight of local police departments had been seen abusing their authority. this one is really one disturbs me, the time you have so much discontent about pic community relations. i was one of these folks when i was mayor, ias skeptical of consent decrees. were you? they came in to newark, i sate, wait. you want control. i i was like why, we re working hard on these issues, but what most people don t understand is consent decrees, it s not the justice department