your op-ed, and i feel like it s heartfelt, and i think the question is what is the right way to address that? you said something very interesting. you said whether it s a wall or border security, whatever you want to call it. the problem is, in this discussion, there s a distinction, isn t there? democrats want border security without the wall, the cement wall that the president said mexico would pay for, and house members are siding with the president saying there has to be $5 billion for the wall. right? i mean, there s a distinction there? there is a physical d distinction there, and the president says a wall works. a wall does work better than technology and a lot of other ways. we see that when people do it