absolutely. huge conservative pressure not to pass the farm bill. don t pass any bill because it will be scored by heritage action. it will be. but how much is the chamber of commerce going to finally get involved, how much the business that want a farm bill, want immigration reform that usually the republican party listen to. how much are they going to play in the primaries? all the incentives are outside of congress. help me get re-elected and i ll help you do something. it s like blood sport five, sugar industry versus heritage action, two groups enter, one group leaves. we have to take a break. when we come back, a federal judge opens the door for national security apparatus by questioning the consolidate of the nsa phone data collection. we will discuss that ruling and the snowden effect when guardian spencer ackerman joins us. first lawrence o donnell explains challenges faced by millions of children in africa and how a campaign to overcome
going to followed every thing you do. i don t know how we got to this point. something has to be rolled back, everything you do, say, whether it s internet, your credit cards, you name, it they are on you, all for the greater good, and i ve got to tell you at this point in time i don t trust them one bit to take my information and do good with it, and where it stops, i don t think we know 1/100th of what they are doing. i don t have a problem with the nsa phone data collection but it is getting crazier. why is this different? because it s what reason do they have and that s to fight terror? i ve said that after the 9/11 attacks i would go to certain lengths to prevent another terror attack on this country, but what are they doing with this information, but we re increasingly a digital society and we do things with our credit card information and with our activity on the internet. we really don t it s kind of out of sight, out of mind, unfortunately. charlie, this is just li
the law between those records about phone calls and the content of phone calls. this is all about the numbers and the duration, and people historically and legally have less expectation to privacy. i think interesting, too, these nine megainternet companies, skype and youtube and google, five of the nine said they had no idea this was even going on. let me just jump in, there is another interesting point, i want you to weigh in on. we sort of realize this judge whose name is on the order of approving the phone data program and here s the order, i want to show it to you right here, his name is roger vincent. roger vincent just happens to be the judge who said if the government can mandate health care coverage, then, heck, remember this, it can force us all to eat broccoli. this was the broccoli judge. you would think he would have a narrow view of the reach of the federal government, but here he is saying, sure, you know, go ahead, do the phone data collection.