sentence. she got sentenced to 15 years. she will serve 13 more and credit for time served. i practiced in wake county, north carolina. that is a pretty conservative jurisdiction. 15 years on second-degree murder is pretty light. so i do think that is another indication of the bit of leniency we re seeing an perhaps it is because she is a woman. i don t know that a male convicted of second-degree murder of a gruesome crime like this would have gotten 15 years. jon: in your view she should be thanking her lucky stars. phil and ebony. thank you both. thank you. jenna: update on a story we told you about yesterday, a proposal from the department of homeland security asking a private company to create a nationwide license plate tracking system that would specifically target illegal immigrants but also record all of our license plates potentially. judge andrew napolitano was on the show yesterday. here is what he had to say about it. it is insane in this environment the government would
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i had nothing to do with it, anything i did have to do with it after the fact was under duress because my husband is a big ol bully. i don t know how it will benefit amanda hayes to have him take the stand in her defense. jon: let me read, phil, some of what he just told a north carolina television station. he says of the encounter between these two women that apparently took place in the apartment. words were exchanged and laura jumped amanda. laura is the girlfriend. amanda tells me that laura made a threat to take her child away from her. the next thing she knew laura had her by the hair and was dragging her. so he is trying to i guess blame the murder of the girlfriend on the girlfriend saying she acted first and that his wife only acted basically in self-defense. right. i mean well he is in jail and he will say whatever he can to just try to save his skin.
her listen, if you mistakenly kill somebody, do you do that, jon? do you make that effort? do you buy a power saw, get caught on tape doing, buy coolers, put it in a van and drive halfway across the country if you re innocent? i don t think so. jon: but does that, you know, is there enough evidence there, phil, for a first-degree murder conviction against his wife? well here s the thing. there may be a enough evidence against her. there may not be enough evidence against her but the defense s problem is that it is such a heinous and vile act, it is uncomfortable. they will look at pictures and hear the story and jury will sit there and say i m not giving her the benefit of the doubt. i know that is the legal standard. i will not give her reasonable doubt. she will have so show me something why i find her not guilty of murder. that will not happen in this case. the case is so brutal and the jury will disbusted with her and the jury will come back with a murder conviction and after t
temperatures. they re saying this winter weather will be continuing all throughout the month of january. this shortage is expected to continue all the way until spring. patti ann? patti ann: garrett tenney live in illinois. stay warm, thanks. jon: the murder trial of a north carolina woman accused of helping her husband kill his former lover is expected to begin today. prosecutors claim amanda hayes and her husband lured the victim to their apartment and then killed her and dismembered her body back in 2011. hayes husband was found guilty of the murder last year. joining me jonna spilbor, criminal defense attorney and phil snyder a former prosecutor. jonna, i covered a lot of cases and this is about as twisted as they get. apparently this man, grant hays had hayes had children with both women. his ex-girlfriend or i guess girlfriend at the time was suing him over cost did i of the two