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clinical assistant professor at nyu, doctor gounder joins me now, thank you so much for being on a show. on july the 8th this cdc and the fda issued a very public statement saying that booster shots were unnecessary. they said that in response to pfizer and moderna saying that they were necessary. now a little over a month later that is being reversed, that s is a u-turn over masking indoors, you ve been on the biden team into before they ve done a good job of fighting the virus overall. when it comes to messages, there been a lot of mixed messages? i am concerned about the messaging here, about the need for extra doses of vaccine, there is clear data that people who are immunocompromised, people who had solid organ transplants, medication, people who have aids, those are people who may need a additional dose of vaccine. as additional dose because i think when people hear boosters, they re thinking the flu shot that you get every year, we re really just talking about a
johnson & johnson what we re being told there s still research being done, doctor gounder, let me ask you this, greg abbott has been technical, he received a third dose of the vaccine but he still tested positive for covid today. he wasn t wearing a mask and his fund-raiser last night, what is it like to live in a country where a republican governor can get three doses of the covid vaccine while banning mask mandates for the public? well, he clearly understands the risk of covid to his own personal health, if he sought out this third dose of vaccine, and not only that he also has got monoclonal antibody, the same drug that was used to treat former president trump, former governor chris christie, that same drug has also been administered to governor abbott now for treatment of covid, he clearly understands the risk, i think the message here is also vaccines are not perfect. i don t know the timing of that third dose, it might have been recent, but vaccines are not
going to prevent all infections, especially if you are exposing yourself to this degree, to indoor crowds, without a mask. and this speaks to the need to be layering interventions, a masking, improve ventilation and air filtration, socializing outdoors, in addition to being vaccinated. the head of the world health organization this month called for a hold on booster shots, saying the vaccine gap between wealthy countries and poor countries in this world of ours has widened, so is it an ethical choice for the u.s. to make the supply these extra shots which you are saying you are not sure about the evidence? i don t think is just a humanitarian, or ethical or moral argument to be made to have this moratorium on extra doses, i think this is frankly in our self interest, what will have the most public health impact, we need to spread the vaccine supply across more people. spread the supply to the people
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