The last few months have put Data Protection back in the spotlight joining a crisis do we have to choose between safety and privacy while i talk about this with Richard Stallman of privacy activists and the founder of the Free Software movement. Richard stallman Digital Privacy activist a sounder and later all the Free Software movement its such a pleasure to have you on our program once again while richard time so really changed and still last time we spoke and i have so many questions. Especially now that were in the middle of one of the biggest crisis our generations have faced in the past 100 years or so is the coronavirus epidemic has shown that. Giant Tech Companies can use stand resources to help out in a crisis situation and thats undeniable i havent seen that well i mean i havent seen them help. Them remain saying that theyre doing right now is helping people spread insane lunatic rumors that are starting from the president of the us who is basically us the saboteur in chief a
They die and he says it didnt happen no you have points there can i just give us examples of what i meant when i sat that you know they help for instance when people were in lock downs and still like a lot of countries are getting 2nd waves right now and people feel more comfortable staying home if they can work on distance so you have amazon for instance delivering goods food. Utilities things that you need. A ball because they track you you know. If i were concerned only with my physical safety i might use those services too but i do find safety in a broader way it includes my health it also includes my freedom and my privacy and therefore i never use those disservices that require people to identify themselves and they do it to get food delivered that way you have to give you have to identify yourself in order to pay you cant pay cash and then you have to give your address to and thats more information that i then i want the supermarket to have about me so i go to a supermarket wear