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. host: joining us now, professor s pch er oven who has studied what it means to be a naturally born sit den. caller: we don t have an answer to that question. there s two basic takes of what natural born would mean. one would require that the individual be born in the united states. the other would allow an individual whose parents were citizen. somebody could be eligible to be president if one or both of their parents was a citizen and they happened to be born outside the borders? that s right this happens all the time now. if we look at the purpose of this clause, it would seem reasonable to allow the elibility in an example if their parent s were born outside the united states. john mccain was born outside the ter fory of the united states. there was some consensus he was eligible he was eligible to run for the presidency. he was born in a u.s. territory in the panama canal. correct but it wasn t the u.s. proper. given this situation. if he had been born in kenya