Nairobi while kenyan Authorities Say they are now in control of five hostages and five hostages are free. Several of the gunmen have not yet been found. There was more fighting today. The sound of intense gunfire and more explosions filled the air around the mall. The rebel Group Alshabab has claimed responsibility. Kenyan leaders say there is another organization that is ultimately responsible for this attack. Kenyans foreign minister spoke with james bays. This is al qaeda. The home of al qaeda. The way this thing was planned. I just told you, that they have been talking to everybody, obviously. If it was just alshabab, i dont know how much training you would get. This is definitely al qaeda. It was led by somebody not some alia. We need to understand that, and giving them a different name doesnt actually help. We need to call them by their name, the name they acquired since 9 11. And continue to fight them in that way. Joining us now to talk about safety procedures in the United Sta