every local newspaper, that s precisely what they want. but is it working? it works with his base. it shows he s actually doing something, despite everybody, including the supreme court, being against him. apprehensions on the border will be roughly 5,000 people. 2,000, that s a tiny fraction of 1%. it s purely symbolic to show they re the tough guy and they re getting people out so his voters see he s doing that. it s also becoming purely symbolic for us to sit here day after day after day after day after day with all of these documents, all of these statistics and say cruelty is the point. to what end? where are the democrats? why aren t we marching on these facilities? the new york times has done extraordinariy reporting. we started the week, i think peter was here monday, talking about extraordinary reporting partnered with the local paper at the border, about what border what has to break? what has to break for this to
expressed apprehension about arresting babies and young children, officials have said. and that is where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. with us from the new york times, chief white house correspondent peter baker n washington jeremy bash, former chief of staff of the cia and department of defense. and former chief of staff to vice president s joe biden and al gore, ron klain with us at the table. heather mcghee, former managing editor of time magazine and veteran of the obama administration, and my freak sidekick rick stengel. let me start with you, peter baker. part of normalizing all that is not normal is reading a sentence like they plan to jail babies and not just stopping for a minute. how is that even done? we re 2 1/2 years in, and every morning you wake up and you think, i can t really be surprised about anything new today. and then you re surprised by something new. we will see what the rest of the day brings. we will see what tomorrow br
collateral means kids being left, it means moms, dads, friends being torn apart. it is absolutely disgusting. shame, shame, shame on this awful administration. i m going to appeal to the people of faith-based organizations to appeal to the president. this is fundamentally unfair. it has nothing to do with the security and safety of the united states. ron klain. yeah, we are going to see if trump goes for it, and i take peter s point, he threatened this before, he s backed down before, but if he goes forward, we re going to see the horrible, ghastly pictures we are now seeing on the border in new york, in chicago, in san francisco, in los angeles. trump s border war come to your hometown. the separating of families, the deportation of parents whose children are serving overseas in our armed forces who have done nothing wrong except be here without papers. and that kind of cruelty, that kind of harshness not just far
this sort of path through self-inflicted chaos and defeat, frankly, nailed down pretty perfectly. but i just want to show you the flashes of defiance that i believe led to the resignation or at least reassignment of several career doj lawyers. this was the president tweeting about not getting his way with adding the citizenship question to the census. he wrote this the news reports about the department of commerce dropping its quest to put the citizenship question on the census is incorrect or to state it differently fake. we are absolutely moving forward as we must because of the importance to the answer to this question. the doj, as peter just explained, trying to explain that away, down alice in wonderland s rabbit hole, said this to a judge the tweet is the first i heard of the president on this issue. i do not have a deeper understanding of what that means at this juncture other than what the president has tweeted, but obviously, as you may imagine,
pronunciation of an east african country. it s tanzania, not tanzania, but other than that moment in the speech, i think this will be a good moment for the u.s. allies around the world who have not wanted to see him just kind of wipe out the deal. and peter baker n talking to many of these sam ambassadors here in the u.s., they have been blanketing capitol hill, trying to stop the next step. trying to argue with congress. there s a certain reluctance in congress, as you know, to do this. trying to argue they should just leave it alone and hope they can talk the president down from terminating the deal down the road. that s exactly right. and i think that, you know, they have they have a hope in the sense that congress is finding it difficult to get anything done. the idea they re going to come together on a consensus that can pass both houses, an uphill