separated not necessarily advocating for illegals time and time again. abby: he had to walk this one back and put out an executive order. pete: he didn t have to. he did but he didn t have to. abby: we can debate that. ed: we will debate that all morning in terms of walking it back and president dealing with media narrative set no matter how he reacted. look what time magazine had to do. they put out this cover that tries to frame this in a way that is obviously extremely negative to the president s position. screaming, crying 2-year-old girl president over her as if he is literally ripping her from mom when, in fact time magazine has to run a correction about the story. they haven t corrected the photo. they are still standing behind the idea that this still, in their eyes, typifies the debate. but they are admitting now that this young girl, 2 years old was never separated from her mom. abby: we all saw this 2-year-old girl who came
why can t a man of the people wear a little seersucker once in a while. abby: what do you think of the suit? ed: is that middle america or coastal elite? pete: ed, you are having your hay day. drinking coffee and having a moment with you. abby: good to have you back there is a lot of news to get to. last night hosting angel parents, families that have been separated and will be separated forever. and he talked about the importance of what they have been through and how this part of the conversation we talk about immigration somehow gets missed and doesn t get ed: politicians have events all the time, whether it s the democrats trying to make their points known. the president trying to get his message out. this is one where personally i was hosting deign naps show while this was happening yesterday afternoon and you just say time-out and actually listen to these people. this is not just a political point. these are people who literally had their children ripped away from them. absol
abby: also the message you can t just see a photo and jump to a narrative. so important to understanding what we are talking about. if we are going to look at a photo that seems like it s a terrible situation, let s make sure we back it up with some facts and know the actual story behind it. ed: time magazine about this last night had somebody shoot back at me nice standing behind your fellow journalists. i basically said how why stand behind basically a fake photo. like, that s not standing behind journalism it s simply not. pete: you are standing for journalism, right? frame the story accurately and if in fact, abby is right what she said a minute ago. whether you like it or not the president did walk this back a bit. he had to reverse himself by signing the executive order. if the other side from the president believes that they have the facts right, why do you have to manipulate the facts in the debate. pete: good point. ed: stick with the facts. abby: speaking of facts, accordin
this is almost a prologue at is point. it s defending what is done. abby: i think this is an example. so often helpful for the president and first base to not be a politician. they want someone that s bringing something different to washington. as we see this play out this week i think it would have been helpful to have someone work in government on his team to say you know what? we could have seen this coming a mile away. separation of families. headlines are going to be terrible: the way to do it where we don t have to separate these families. angel parents, get their take on this. have this be part of that narrative or thinking about it before you everyone s attention. pete: maybe this president hacan t saythat can t do that an his supporters say i understand that. because i m for the citizens, the forgotten men and women. the angel parents who lost someone or permanently
there are many of us, thousands of us that don t get to do that anymore. pete: two of these angel parents are going to join us on the program here in a matter of minutes. stick around. ainsley: it areat point. voices we don t hear enough from. they do have a say in what s going on and how we are dealing. pete: think about that quote not lucky enough to be separated for 5 or 10 days. so much noise about temporary, humane, lawful separation. you can say what you want, people have been critical of it. i have thought. it can be a deterrent. if you are in the right way separate kids from parents, listen, it is what it is. a lot of people have different perspectives on it. a press conference like this a bit too late to change the narrative. already signed an executive order. done this at the beginning. pete: it could have been done at the beginning. if you want to have a policy and enforce the rule of law in your country, can you.