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protect my name. and to protect you. and bring you underneath my coat. i m here to tell them that if they mess with you, they messed with me. i m here to bring in the best attorneys, if i have to. but i m not here to do is protect his lies, and, him from hurting me, and everybody else around us. i m tired of it amy. i major help. i need you to be with me. i said, it s time for the truth to come out now. i said, and he has made full out of all of us. i said now it is time for you to step up to the plate. the da gave amy immunity for her testimony. and she agreed to cooperate. she told the sheriff s investigators her own version of what happened on that cruise. how lonnie had booked it, planning to kill mickey. and then amy said, lonnie threatened her. forcing her to lie to the federal grand jury. bill started this, trying to help outline the, and ended up helping you guys? absolutely. he did. four days after that interview, the sergeant traveled to safety harbor, florida, wher
fear. she was afraid of him, she was afraid of bill. it was a double whammy, amy said that he had planned the murder, that was bad enough, then she said he implicated bill, before the cruise, remember, he had invited bill and susan to come along they had a chance of the last minute. now it began to look as if his invitation was part of the plan as well. maybe he had asked bill to go with him, so bill could take the fall for her murder. that is your friend doing that? my friend, yes. a guy that was nearly a brother to you? yes. i got you had been an investigator for? a guy had dinner with? a guy you defended? they got you were trying to exonerate? yes. i think you are lucky he was not in front of you at that moment. i think that is an accurate statement. yes. the anger, and a fury that i felt at that moment was incomprehensible.
to do this? did you make her believe i had anything to do with her death? yeah, i did. i said, why? he said i wanted her to think i had power, i was a big guy. you should know i have a tape recorder, and it is going to the fbi. what did he say when you said that? please do not. i was just trying to impress her. i said okay. i said get out of my house, do not ever come near, me do not come around me, i don t want to hear from you again. then, when he left, i called agents simpson, and i said i have a recording for you. he called and said that he and susan had gone to see amy, and that was i think a real turning point for bill. he wanted him to be innocent? sure. but i think overtime, he came to the conclusion that he wasn t. but i think it took some time for him to come to that conclusion. that recording of the new
leave for five minutes, come back and their tail is wagging, they act like they haven t seen you in years. bill organizes and run stock shows for the american kennel club, susan is a professional handler. training a champion requires some significant instinct, doesn t it? yes it does. and from the beginning, susan s investigative instincts had told her her friend was no killer, bill thought the same. i m thinking, i know these guys for this u.s., i know how he responds to dogs, and animals, he is not winter. and to prove it, bill came up with a plan. i said i will get him to take a polygraph, let s show the fbi they have nothing to hide, and you are going to take this test. he agreed. he was now living in florida. so bill set up the test with a friend named mike, who was also