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Miller and kenneth bae, two other americans being held here. Clearly a signal from north korea and negotiated by swedish diplomats who represent the United States since we do not have diplomatic relations with the north and that it was by a pentagon plane, which came in, landed at the International Airport in pyonyang and took him out and hes on his way home via guam. You did have a u. S. Government plane able to fly in and take him out of there. The u. S. Has been trying to, as you said, seek the release of these other men. The highlevel delegations. Talk about how that works and the back channeling works with the government like the one in pyongy pyongyang that we have no diplomatic relationships with. Between north korean and american diplomats. Sometimes working through beijing, through the chinese, sometimes working on the ground through the swedes who represent us there in the north korean capital. So, there has been back channels. There has been recent communications between nor

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