principal, and you have to make a structure that works for that. what i said before was the three-person structure doesn t work. and that s not just an aside, that s the key to it. now you have one person the president has said who is in charge from a staff perspective, and i think the big key for general kelly is not only to have that empowerment from the president, which he seems to now have, and also jim baker said it very well, he said this to me during the transition when i interviewed him and he said it recently. the chief of staff has to remember to be staff and not chief. ufr you have to work with your staff, make them feel comfortable and let them know we re rowing in the same direction. you re saying this will work potentially if bannon and jared report to kelly. everyone must report to the chief of staff other than the president of the united states. because that s not how it works. we still don t know if that s how it s going to work. i read a comment this morning
fire them. now, the president has a different approach with general sessions. and we re going to see whether that approach works or it doesn t work, depending on what the president s real end is here. and i don t know that. i haven t talked to him about this. but i will tell you, jake, is that in the end, i understand the president s upset about the fact that he appointed an attorney general and even if there was going to be a special counsel, that his attorney general should manage that special counsel s investigation. because special counsel is not independent of the attorney general. they report to the attorney general. and to not have an attorney general who can oversee that, i understand why the president would be frustrated by that. but it s a situation we re in. we re going to take a quick break. stick around. we ve got a lot more to talk about. sure. coming up next, the white house s opioid commission which the governor is leading, and we ll get his side of the story of
page. do you agree that president trump and how disciplined he has been or not been is part of the problem? i think that s part of who he is. i think if you re the chief of staff, you need to understand the style of the principle, the approach of the principle. and you have to make a structure that works for that. what i said before was the three-person structure doesn t work. and that s not just an aside. that s the key to it. now you have one person, the president said who is in charge from the staff perspective. and i think the big key for general kelly is not only to have that empowerment from the president, which he now seems to have, but also jim baker said it very well. he said this to me during the transition when i interviewed him. and he said it again recently. the chief of staff has to remember to be staff and not chief. so you have to work with your staff. you have to make them comfortable and let everybody know we re rowing in the same direction and rowing for president