tonight. back with david gergen, john dean and laura coats. if both forward and cavanaugh stick to their stories and there isn t some kind of investigation it, basically just and both testify publicly, it just ends up being a question of who do the senators believe. correct. again, this is not a fact finding investigation. they re a political panel. their role is supposed to be to say who do we believe a credibility assessment. when you have a he said, she said, what will help everyone if you actually had corroboration on either side to bolster the credibility of the accuser or the person accused. so the investigation as the attorney for dr. ford said was the hearing should not be a substitute for an investigation. it should not be the only source that the senators have to assess the credibility. we do this all the time in courtrooms. i used to specialize in delayed reporting sexual assault cases where you had he said he said or
need to come forward and say, i believe the women accusing the president of various forms of sexual misconduct? these women need to be heard or at a minimum, the president needs to speak more about it rather than just the blanket denials he s given? many have said they do believe these women and their accusations are credible and even from the white house we re hearing that these are troubling accusations. that being said, if that s the case, then we need to hold the person accused i m talking about the accusations against the president himself, the 13 women against the president, alice and the white house doesn t say that they re credible. right. and that s troublesome. look, i think all i believe these women. i believe these women if they re going to put themselves out there, it s nothing fun, i would imagine, about putting yourself in that position. i believe them. and i do think it is troubling that we re picking and choosing which women that we want to believe. and i thi
not offered these same protections. so let s say a settlement is made. the person accused pays for all the legal costs, right? wrong! the payment is paid by the treasury department. meaning it is coming out of your taxpayer dollars. mine too. the special fund used to make these payments do not just cover sexual harassment. they also cover things like racial discrimination and americans with disabilities act violations. paying out more than $15 million in the last 20 years. don t you think this type of information, these type of settlements are the kind of things the american people should know about? joining me now is democratic congresswoman bonnie watson coleman who established the new jersey department of transportation office of civil rights. congresswoman, when you see that confusing flowchart, for me it s mind boggling. what can be done to change that? well, i m sure that they can
accusing. talk about awkward. after 30 days are up, you have two options. either have an administrative hearing to force a resolution or file in federal district court. interns are not offered these same protections. and interns are often the victims. why? they re the weakest. they re the youngest. they re the most junior. that s who predators target. let s say a settlement is made. the person accused, well, they pay for all legal costs, right? nope. wrong! the payment is paid by the treasury department. your tax dollars which is stunning. there is a special fund used to make these payments and they just don t cover sexual harassment. they also cover things like racial discrimination. the amount spent so far reaches in the multi-millions. you did this the other day and it s one of those things we have to keep on doing. just to look at that screen, i don t know if don can put that back up. it doesn t even need
office as the person you re accusing. apparently cooling off. and remember this. it is never the more powerful person who is being harassed. right. so in large part, it is a far more junior person who has been harassed and they are already scared. now imagine the scenario they re in. after 30 days are finished, you have two options. either file in federal district court or have an administrative hearing to force a resolution, and we want to note, interns and remember these things often happen to the person who is the most junior are not offered these protections. so let s say a settlement is made. the person accused pays for all the settlements, right? wrong! it comes out of tax dollars. it doesn t just cover sexual harrassment, it covers things like race discrimination.