wants, and they have to expresses themselves that way. but there is conflict, david, between the fact that young people in the persian gulf states are going to look up and say, wow, the u.s. helped get mubarak out of there, they talked tough about gadhafi. we saw what happened in tunisia. but when it comes to these sunni monarc monarchs, they re going to help them issue a performance but not going to push them out. and we re hedging. i don t think we should be hedging. no one wants to go in with boots on the ground. but we ve got to at least express our principles clearly, that we re for democracy, we think autocracies are unstable, and we re for that kind of change. and we re always hedging nuances that nobody else pays attention to that makes us look passive. the problem with libya, we have gotten ours into a bad situation by imposing sanctions on gadhafi, essentially saying you ve got to fight to the death because there is no way out for you, but then not doing the second step,
meet the press, it s very interesting. it s all over. the most concerning to us as americans, i would suggest, is the shia-sunni fult line. the gcc persian gulf states. bahrain specifically. saudi arabia. but we re seeing it in places where there are ruthless dictators who will murder their people, also. the syrians, the iranians. so the clampdown s going to be pretty extreme. it s hard to imagine some of these nations like the chinese allowing protests to get out of control. so we may be seeing a lot more bloodshed in the coming months. general mccaffrey, great to see you. thank you, sir. good to be with you. some other news making headlines this morning, a hazmat crew is on the site of a freight train derailment on the banks of the puget sound in washington. 14 cars derailed, most of them themmy but four contained a toxic chemical. one car leaked 20 gallons of this substance.