force and the application of force as it relates to policing. and, again, to suggest whether jokingly or otherwise that we treat anybody other than with complete respect is somewhat detracting from what we re attempt to go do. is there anybody you ve talked to, because there isn t anybody i ve talked to, who thought that that line of commentary from the president, joking or not, most people i talk to say really shouldn t be joking about that sort of thing in the environment that we ve been in for the last few years, but there are a lot of people who have said they thought that was okay. that may have been okay for them but i m telling you building trust and communities, none of us were laughing about the statement. it was, okay, how do we continue to move forward and build those relationships. thank you much for being with us. perry tarrant is the assistant chief of the seattle police department. coming up, i m going to be joined by a nobel prize