if he tried to say that, it would be like al gore invented the internet. as a matter of fact, george bush and his predecessor created jobs at a faster rate than you did. harold ford, what was your takeaway? similar to what s been said around the table. the questions around science that last night rick perry questioned global warming and the science around it, you couple that with the comment about ben bernanke and calling him a traitor. he said it was treasonous acts and people in texas would treat him poorly if he were to come to texas. you couple that with last night, a lot of people were surprised with how romney stood firm. it made him look far more presidential. finally, huntsman looked good, but this is mitt romney s race now. mitt romney needed this kind of challenge. perry, they all say, people that
answer some. you know, kevin madden, we know your point of view when it comes to mitt romney, the romney campaign is making this argument that they can have a republican primary argument particularly on social security, but even perhaps other things like science, maybe they wouldn t put it the way he put it, but that they can have this argument. do you buy that? i think the argument that comes out about it is twofold. i think if you look at governor romney, he has a specific 59 point plan on the economy, and 160 page book. he has a plan for social security to make it solvent for future generations. governor perry is a wholesale indictment of social security without a detailed plan about what he would do on social security or even the economy. so what happened was, when he got off the script last night, he kind of me an dered and didn t have a lot of strong
conservatives lined up behind john mccain four years ago. that stinks. a guy they didn t consider to be a conservative, teamed up with ted kennedy on a lot of things. sticking a sharp stick in a lot of things. like goldwater, he had a disconnect. do you agree? i agree with you. conservatives are saying wait, i m going to get behind a guy that was a liberal governor of massachusetts? so i think mark is right, it s why it s hard to make that final dive. do you think perry s presence in the race now helps romney in a competitive way? i think it s a good thing to hone your skills, sharpen your skills. explain that. the first time i ran, i had 87 people in the republican
those are wonderful things, governor perry doesn t believe he created those things. if he believed that it would be like al gore saying he created the internet. michael dukakis created jobs three times faster than you did, mitt. megyn: it was i m rubber, you are glue, whatever you say bounces karnl rove is a former karl rove is a senior advisor to george w. bush. i thought it was a spirited debate. if you step back you can understand why republicans are feeling more comfortable with their options and you can understand why president obama this trouble. last night from every one of those people was a principled, thoughtful critique of barak
effective in jobs. we need a president who is going to provide leadership in giving direction and opening up opportunities. this president thooz go. he s a nice guy and doesn t have a clue how to get the country moving again. wow. that s one way to put it. some people may not feel that way about things. let s address those things. with us from the white house, we have jay carney. good to see you. good to see you, mika. also, we have nbc news chief white house correspondent, chuck todd as well. jay, i ll start with you and let you respond to the statements. also, on a more realistic level, how does the president turn the page? it seems like his efforts over the past several years have fallen flat and people are lo losing confidence. mika, there s no question people remain confident about the economy. understandably so. growth is too slow, job creation