draw pretty much equally between both sides, the republicans as well as the democrats. and our focus right now is to, like perot was successful by getting on the ballot in all 50 states. it s not going to be a down ticket deal. this is going to be a president and a vice president. we re not going to have congressional candidates or senate or state rep candidates on there. but literally to get on the ballot. we had some good news this last week. utah approved us getting on the ballot. so, you know, our intent is to be on all 50 states by the end of the first quarter next year and a national convention set up in dallas. i want to talk more about that effort to get on the ballot because obviously if you want to win you ve got to get on the ballot first. and i m interested in that. but when you say that you re pulling from democrats and republicans equally, we ve seen the polling on how voters don t want a trump/biden rematch. but there s very little data on what this exactly would look
no, i don t think so. no labels has been around since about 2008 or 09. it was very involved be the problem solvers caucus, which is a house caucus, which was a vice chair of. it s an equal number of republicans and democrats. you had josh gottheimer and brian fitzpatrick on a number of times. this is a little larger group, bipartisan, bicameral. and they ve been until now very focused on the issues. actually they still are. whether it was the debt ceiling, immigration, you know, keeping the government open, a whole bunch of very chips bill, infrastructure. but now the polling that we ve done shows that literally 26,000 people around the country, it draws equally unlike perot in 92, 30 years ago, was that perot basically took from bush and allowed bill clinton to win the election. the polling now shows that we
manchin peels off independence and moderates away from biden and biden won t be able to hold on to razor thin margins in georgia, arizona and pennsylvania. joe manchin puts donald trump back in the white house. disappear my co-host on the five and she joins me now. manchin? dana: this has been rumored for quite a while because he hasn t announced whether he is running for his re-election in the senate and likely lose by about 40 points. it s possible he is thinking about that he doesn t have a constituency left in west virginia. i don t think he has a serious one across the country. i understand why the biden team would be concerned about this. because you have flashbacks of 1992 when george h.w. bush is running against clinton, perot comes in and what happens? jesse: the spoiler and jesse watters primetime strongly supports the joe biden independent presidential run very strongly. dana perino, now you see r.f.k. jr. getting traction. he s not going away. he is steady at 20%.
number. they compared him to the trump number at the same time and it s not even close. people felt they were being more helped than hurt. i think if it s a with it person race. trump and biden trump wins that it third party candidate remains to be seen whether that person siphons votes from the left or the right and does a perot to donald trump the way perot did it to bush 41. bret: do you think that s more likely today than it was. likely some wealthy people stroke a checkner mits miss the money and decide hot next president is. bret. they won t get a single electoral vote but decide hot next president is i think for biden smart democrats like doug maybe, people on capitol hill why aren t they speaking up about what we all see in the data? this guy s presidency and the threat of donald trump being president again makes them all so crazy that they don t even say what they see which is a party leader track dragging them down. also, last point. the reason that the democrats did bett
respect the person that, if it s not me, the person that wins. trump made a big show of opposing that pledge. then he later signed a pledge. he flip-flopped again in the primary saying it was void. republican insiders were mad. many republican voter obviously don t seem to care much. if trump were to lose the nomination, oppose the nominee and ran as a third party, it could torpedo in nominee. pass candidate like perot hurt republicans. but voters may not be into either party anymore at that loyalty level. now trump says he s giving the same answer as last time. of course that cycle he basically gave up to three answers. my question to you, mr. president, if you re not the nominee, will you support whoever the gop nominee is? it would depend. i would give you the same answer i gave in 2016 during the debate, the first question i was asked. i was asked two rather