to have a convicted felony running for president. and so our program republican voters against trump, it hinges on a key theory around permission structures, which is, you need credible messengers to speak to these swing voters. and so, we have hundreds of people who have voted for trump in the past, many of them have voted for him past, who are explaining and there s testimonials all over our website, explaining why they won t vote for trump again. but after the conviction, we wanted to make sure that it stuck with people. we have watched donald trump, extraordinary things have happened. like his own vice president, not endorsing him. and yet, it kind of just rolls off of voters minds, you know, trump s been around for a long time, we have two functional incumbents. and that creates a dynamic where voters just aren t as tuned in, in ways that they might have. so you have to go offense. you have to have strong, affirmative messaging to make sure that things stick in the mind of voters
of democracy, who is tearing down our judicial system should never be allowed back in the oval office, but we re going to make it clear what president biden is doing and will continue do for the american people in a second term. lowering prescription drug costs, capping insulin at $35. that s where president biden s focus is, and you re going to see him traveling across the country hitting battleground states which he s been doing in contrast to trump who has really not hit battleground states. you re going to see him take that message to the campaign trail. that s where our focus is, making the lives of american people better in contrast to trump who simply wants to seek political revenge and retribution on his enemies if he gets back in the oval office. so says trump himself. i want to ask you about this line about trump snapping in 2020. i had not heard the president make that on the campaign trail, and i think our friend sarah longwell, who is an expert and has educated me on per
trajectory of the race, but will have a marginal impact on these marginal swing voters in an election decided at the margins. i think that people are staring at the wrong part of the portrait. they are staring at the people willing to go to the u.s. capitol on january 6 to hang mike pence. of course those people are not moved by 34 felony convictions. if you look at the people who used to have trump flags in front of their house or used to wear an maga hat to the grocery store there are a lot fewer trump flags. a lot fewer redcap traffic the where the unlike those willing to travel to washington on january 6. can you talk about the moment that exist in terms of permission structures for sort of the rule of law republicans to say i m out?