elevated most importantly above claims of emotional safety, harm, that might be defined as harassment by activists, so that puts a very strong signal, they are really breathing down the neck, proactively applying the law, not waiting for people to sue. you need that back in, you need that proactive investigatory powers in order to keep universities from bending to the winds of these activists is not going to happen with a hands-off libertarian approach. it can only happen with an interventionist approach from government. ben: i think that unfortunately i wish it didn t have to be but i think you are unfortunately correct about this. professor, your work is excellent, it s essential and it s the kind of thing people need to pay attention to and i m glad that you re out there saying this. i worry about those who are silent at the same time who might be doing this type of research. thank you so much for joining me this evening. thanks, ben. ben: up next we have an exclusive interv
ben: now to a student led campaign to oust a university of london politics professor period eric kaufman has been a vocal critic of woke culture on campus. a student group is accusing him from being an what s a pharmacist and apologist there is a white s a premises professor in the halls teaching and grading and supervising migrant and students of color. how can our school call itself a diverse and truly diverse university if it employs such an important figure for whites of pharmacy and seen a phobic hostility? the professor is the author of white shift and he s here to respond. your book is phenomenal and it explains so much that has happened in politics in the past several decades. had some point i assumed that the council culture would come cometo for you. are you surprised at the nature of it and what is your response to it?