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MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle June 4, 2024 03:12:00

protected him, he declassified the documents, but now that we are in the lane that he is accused of destroy destroying evidence, all those arguments go out the window, don t they? they do, and the only thing you can do as trump s lawyers is try to negotiate a plea deal for him. but it s very clear that that is not where donald trump is headed on this. to underline the point that charles was just making, this evidence is very good because prosecutors don t have to prove that trump succeeded in obstructing justice. what they have to prove is the attempt. and so now we have the statements from this new defendant, this new codefendant, where he is directly having conversations with trump, and following those conversations, which are documented, he then goes out and makes the statement to other people, who presumably, per franks is to of observation, there are

MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle June 4, 2024 06:13:00

presumably, per franks is to of observation, there are cooperators who will talk about these conversations. it s an extremely strong case. in the way that it has been crafted, it does cut the defenses out from underneath trump. he is left with very little he can argue. i suspect we will hear some sort of effort to maintain the documents where he is, but it s clearly not going to fly. this case will be about delay, delay, delay, not about trying to offer a legitimate defense. he s hoping the judge will help him or republicans will help him, and he ll get himself elected and wipe this thing out. peter, i want to play what trump said earlier this summer. you were recorded saying that you had a document detailing attack planned another country preparing prepare for you when you are president. the iran plan. you remember that?

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