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why would people say to a pollster something that s not true? well, as we ve seen now for several cycles what people have what a lot of folks out there have concluded is they do not want to be put in a position where they re judged by someone else. if i say i m supporting president trump then you will automatically presume i m a white nationalist or racist. so if you ask me if buttigieg beats trump, yeah, he beats trump. if the next question is do you think trump is going to win, yeah trump s going to win. you know why trump s going to win? i m voting for him. you ve got to be careful, one, with national polls and how they re questioned and work together. two, look at the states. why do people say they re for a democratic candidate for top four for trump but then you ask the same people who s going to win, and trump. i think yes people lie, but i think people have a healthy concern about our democratic
people to trial so that s a show indictment in some ways but finally the process crimes. every investigation produces process crimes. people lie, they obstruct witnesses, they do all of these things. these are crimes that are generated, not caused, generated by the investigation itself. they are serious crimes, but you do not appoint a special counsel in order to prosecute process crimes but you appoint a special counsel to prosecute or investigate substantive crimes relating to collusion. on that, unless we see something dramatic in this report, this special counsel has not come up with very much. bret: and explain to people the thought process about obstruction of justice at the executive level and how the attorney general barr has written about this before? well, he s right. barr is right, and barr as i ve said heavily and written over the years that you can t have obstruction of justice when the president simply exercises