during the january 6th insurrection provides brand-new context to the comments you just heard there. in an excerpt obtained exclusively by nbc news from a book out called frankly, we did win this election, the inside story of how donald trump lost michael bender writes of a dramatic break between the former president and his second in command on the day of the insurrection. bender writes this, quote. a swarm of rioters just outside the room had smashed windows and busted through doors and now prowled across the waxed sandstone block floors beneath the iconic cast-iron dome. pence s life and the safety of just about everyone else in the capitol that day rested in the hands of the national guard. quote, i want them down here and i want them down here now, pence instructed in a private phone call with the nation s top military and defense officials gathered at the pentagon. initially, trump seemed to be enjoying the may lay, heartened to see his supporters fighting
so vigorously on his behalf. he watched more as a passive spectator than as the president of the united states who had helped to incite the violence unfolding little more than two miles away. trump didn t call off the intruders until almost 4:30 p.m., about a half hour after pence had called the pentagon looking for support from the national guard. that never-before-reported conflict between trump and the man whose life he endangered one of the latest examples of one of trump s most loyal allies privately breaking with him in the aftermath of the election loss. there s the account of former attorney general bill barr who willingly subverted the reputation and integrity of the justice department in service to his ex-boss. the details come to us in an interview with abc new s jonathan carl in the atlanta. quote, my attitude was, it was put-up or shut-up, barr told me. if there was evidence of fraud i
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there s for precedent whatsoever for allowing war criminals to be visited by their family. if these guys are ordinary criminals, like in federal prisons here in the mainland, then they would be entitled to family visits. if they re prisoners of war, because they re sworn enemies of the united states, would go back to the battlefield the minute they re released, it would be unprecedented to give them family visits. my own problem with the gitmo is nothing to do with the physical plant. i ve visited in my prior life many jails, and this one favors extremely to jails in the united states. the physical plant is superb. the issue is do we want to incarcerate people, even if they re found not guilty, we ll keep them in the jail for the rest of their lives. i called the pentagon looking for guidance in preparation for this story, and they say the biggest thing they hear at the pentagon is that the logistics of this alone would be so complicate, ferrying family members to and from this