was cut by a congress that maybe didn t really understand that that s what they were doing, that fight that started today is a fight where both the military and the congress now are fighting each other for the right to raise the defense budget. both sides of the fight want more spending on the military. that s the fight that we re about to have in washington. that s the two sides that were set up today. you want to cut defense, well i want to spend more on defense. oh, yeah, no, i want to spend more on defense, you re the one who wants to cut it. that s the fight we re now about to have in washington. and the question of whether there really will be ever a drawdown again, after an american war, that remains a question that is only discussed well outside of polite company. joining us, barney sfrank, former democratic congressman of massachusetts, longtime add vo kite for reducing american spending on the military. it s good to have you on the show. thank you for being here. thank you,