and corporations are underfunded by hundreds of billions of dollars. no question, but they re not contributing money, to the politicians at this point for union rules. the union deal, if the union thinks there s a big problem, why doesn t the union bail them out. brenda: well, pension costs are soaring. is cutbacks an option or is a bailout the only one that you can see? i don t think that a bailout is the only option here, but i do have a take a little bit of offense with gary pulling out of this one example of this one pension worker. my parents both government workers, paid their taxes, health care, most ever their entire lives and i m sorry, the pensions that is coming to them, they deserve to get and i think there are way stories. the private employees get about a third of what the public employees get in terms of pensions, much, much less in the private