the american bar association talking about once you ve been incarcerated for a low level drug crime, there s 40,000 collateral consequences that impacted your life. jobs, pell grants, loans from banks. do you think yes or no this system of mass incarceration has disproportionately benefitted african american communities? yes or no. i think the reduction in crime has since 1992, but i think that the heavy drug penalti penalties especially on crack and other things have harmed the black community. the incarceration rates have harmed the black community. i would conclude to my chairman and partner, thank you, sir, on this. because i m grateful for this bipartisan group, the heritage foundation. i ve spoken at the aei conference. i worry about the highest law enforcement officer in the land and some of the language that i