flourishes it featured. it was not total fully written by lawyers. now he will walk back what he said about whether or not there was a quid pro quo when he testifies on capitol hill this week. the president appearing over the phone on fox talking about the situation surrounding his personal attorney rudy giuliani. i just don t know if there is an investigation. i just heard it. . el with, the new york times is reporting i find a lot of things that you hear, they should look at other people. they should be looking at really bad people doing really bad things to our country. so, no, i stand behind rudy giuliani. absolutely. again, he was a crime fighter from tay one. on that point, there has been ups and downs over the course of the last few days in how the president regards his personal attorney. he was on the south lawn and professed not to know if he was
expe expert. it s really good and i would say that even if i were not conflicted. so as someone who worked at southern district i was just so fascinated pie the timing of all this and what it means. what is your reaction to this big berest being announced right at this moment and its proximity to rudy giuliani? elwith, first of all it sounds from its reporting they re investigating people and they have alerts that can come up when someone s peaing a one way ticket out of town. so it sounds like it timing was dictated by that. but this is not an indictment they threw together overnight. first of all, just to get an indictment they would have had to go through a grand jury. if you re really arresting someone on the fly you do it by a complaint not an indictment. this has clearly been an ongoing investigation for a while. and we re hearing now about
chairman, and we appreciate here at the beginning of this assessment you coming on to set the table for us. thank you very much. el with, thawell, thank you. it s my pleasure. i always watch you at home. hopefully you ll be on the show more and watching from home less. you ll be pivotal in this pros process so congressman eliot engel, thank you. congressman engel is the old guard. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez is the new guard. she s been waiting for speaker pelosi to come around. how does she feel about what seems to be the democrat plan of being all in on this ukraine matter? and what is the big plan that she has for you? next.
we d like to do this in another jurisdiction so that no one finds out about it. i mean, if everything that prosecutors were doing was above board, then why did they try to keep it secret? i mean, that s one thing that alex acosta no one has really answered. they say, well, this was approved at all levels of the justice department. if that s true, why did they keep is secret? and what would be alex a acosta s incentive to do this? what was in it for him? why would he behave this way as a u.s. attorney? el with, think about it, he is the labor secretary. he s a cabinet woke only sansed after this happened. despite there were stories about this over the years, but they still managed to advance in
on it. if they force the issue, what happened? claudia is here with us what do you think happens? el with, neil, it s going to be what they re trying to do, what the u.s. maneuvering is to do is move in impasse the direction of the dictator maduro steps down. that s the game. i think its risky and juan guaido has been willing to take the risk. this could bad a very big weekend. this is taking us what has been an impasse for the past month now since he became interim president. neil: what would happen if the government were to force that issue with the government that we recognize, guaido, saying no, no, no, we want to make sure this aid gets to the people. that could turn into a real mess come saturday. yes, it could. but it s a mess already. that s the problem. part of the game here, it s a