the evils that do continue on in society today shouldn t be taught. reporter: the audience took photographs of slides and diligent notes on her presentation. i have a question. reporter: when protesters shouted out during and after the event they were confronted with chants. when you do read a cabal of progressives want to rewrite how students learn about their american heritage, that s pretty tough language. and you can see someone being really upset about some of that. what about the role of you all in this as well, making it more vitriolic? i would say what would be a better way to frame that that gets the point across of how serious all of this. reporter: activist and educator raj sekiwaju attended the meeting and thought it was racist. critical race theory fundamentally asks the question where does our loss come from and how it is informed by our racialized practices. racist practices. why are we not questioning that?
before had had good crime policies and this soft on crime thing has never been the right rap, now they have the right rep. including in new york, where my brother is the governor. bail reform is important. people rot in jails wrongly. but did the reforms go too far? are judges hands tied on discretion for gun crimes in a way and releasing people from prison in a way that is making things worse when it comes to shooting? they re going to have to defend the proposition. well, that s a discussion. especially the thing about bail reform. i know it s been said a lot. bill bratton, who i respect highly has been on the show. even during the pandemic, we had a town hall with police chiefs from major cities all across this country talking about those issues. so far, though, so far, and they could be right, i haven t seen any empirical evidence that it is bail reform. of course people who are violent criminals should not be let out. if someone commits a violent crime they should not be let ou
so the crime issue is really important. is it the way that republicans are framing it? no. should we accept that framing? no. we should tell the truth about it. and it s not just a democratic problem or as the right would say a democrat problem, which is not correct grammar, which is used in a pejorative way. so i think it s up to us folks in the media to tell the truth about what it is so that people can make up their own minds about it on factual information. zblon, i couldn t agree with you more. part of the reason the last five years we got into this problem is not enough people, many of us included, clearly and fiercely sang out the truth, clearly and fiercely told the truth, and not treated politics just like a game like oh, there s a and there s b. we have to clearly and fiercely say the truth and say one political party is an autocratic party, the republicans, and one political party is the last party we have to protect our republic. that s a fact, and i say that as somebody wh
do you think republicans actually do you think they heard or listened to the president s speech, and if they did, did they do it with open ears? because he denounced republican efforts to restrict voting rights. at one point he asked, have you no shame? similar question to what i asked before. but i mean we know what the answer to that is. how do you shame the shameless? you can t shame them. do i think their ears the sound waves went into their ears? yeah. do i think their brain picked it up as anything they would respond to? no. i think they ll say biden is being dramatic, biden is overreacting, this is not the you know, they ll go into their whole spin cycle of all of this stuff that they say. so their ears received it, their brains didn t. that s the problem we re in today. i was thinking as you were talking to chris, who i think is great, and that whole issue of crime. that s another whole issue that s being spun in a way that s nonfactual, and i think chris has a respon
tonight or today s speech was a four alarm fire speech by the way he gave it and what he says. you ve never heard a president talk about the situation the united states was in like that except in 1861. go back through all the presidents speeches, all of the presidents, what they faced. the last time a president gave a speech like joe biden did today was abraham lincoln in 1861. was the last time a president gave a speech like that. so my hope is we re now on the path to getting this resolved. i think they should easily carve out an exception on voting rights for the filibuster, so maybe not get rid of it totally but carve out an exception for voting rights. i think that s where we ll end up. i hope it s in the next month or two. we ll see. but i think all of us have to keep raising the idea that there is a four-alarm fire in our country and it s the most important issue every single person faces. us here in texas. you there. everywhere we face this problem with an attack on our democr