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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:00:00

trump base. you saw that with a lot of the things he s done in florida, which is alienating his own donors and some of his supporters. this is the problem. running to his right isn t going to peel away trump voters. the hard core base isn t going away. desantis will keep making this argument, but we ve also seen the washington post poll last week that suggests that desantis and trump are equal against biden. right. if there were more polls like that, desantis entire reason for being evaporates. running to the right of trump in a republican primary seems to only hurt your chances in a general election. trump lost the popular vote both times he ran for president. jonathan, thanks for hanging with us. thanks to all of you for getting up way too early with us on this thursday morning. morning joe starts right now.

Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Reports 20240604 16:18:00

in disarray this morning. democrats in array, apparently, throughout this vote yesterday, one more republican splintered away from voting from kevin mccarthy. hakeem jeffries to 212 votes. every democrat in the chamber stayed united. let me bring in donna edward, anna palmer. congresswoman edwards, let me start by clarifying something. kevin mccarthy, turning that sound around, when he walked in, he didn t say i think we ll get to 218. he said, i think we can get to an agreement. he s feeling confident that there will be some kind of an agreement. what you re seeing are democrats for now holding firm all backing hakeem jeffries. there had been some speculation over the course of the last 18 hours that perhaps if this dragged on, you may see some democrats get sick of this, peel away, et cetera, is that your

Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:04:00

known. for a quick no vote against mccarthy then present or for him in this round. we could find out soon. but i spoke to one of his top aides who said the plan remains the same. the next round of votes will get started as soon as they re ready. okay. so what we saw paul gosar rose to nominate republican andy biggs for speaker, garrett. so, how much did that peel away, siphon off the support for kevin mccarthy, do you think? well, nine votes here, which is fewer than he got in the closed door session that house republicans had back in november when they picked their nominee. andy biggs isn t going to be the speaker in this congress. he doesn t have the votes in the republican conference. it was a closed door secret ballot. he won t now. he was essentially a stalking horse on a place for republicans who had a variety of issues for mccarthy to park their votes. we also saw republicans voting for jim banks. a younger up and coming

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