state conspiracy theories we ve heard this president peddle before and also suggesting robert mueller has a conflict of interest because he met with the president to potentially discuss taking on the role of fbi director, a position he d held for 12 years. the president seeming to suggest mueller had a vendetta against president trump. the president also tweeting about aaron zedley, suggesting he s a never trumper, he has no clear political bias here. according to federal records he s never donated to either political party, but the president is continuing to smear the special counsel and suggest that this is all basically a deep state conspiracy out to get him. and so the question of whether or not the president is actually going to be watching, you mentioned he did play coy the other day and suggested he may watch bits and pieces of it. given just how much this president consumes news even
whether he thinks there was obstruction of justice is just there is no legal foundation. he literally made that up and i think the democrats here have this notion they don t want to antagonize him because he s the star witness but letting him set the terms of the debate on this question has been a huge mistake. and by the same token, they should ask the same way ken starr committed in 1998 to identifying at least a dozen instances of impeachable conduct, if mueller doesn t want to answer if he thinks the four instances he outlined were obstruction of justice, there is no legal reason, no president reason, no other reason why he can t say these conduct, this misconduct is an impeachable offense. they should push him. democrat haves taken, have taken kind of a soft peddle to that and i think that s a mistake because i think what we ll have at the end of this is a test where the republican see what they want to see and the democrats see what they want to see and we ll be status quo on f
clinton came out feeling vindicated. so this notion that he can t commit on this question about whether he thinks there was obstruction of justice is just there is no legal foundation. he literally made that up and i think the democrats here have this notion they don t want to antagonize him because he s the star witness but letting him set the terms of the debate on this question has been a huge mistake. and by the same token, they should ask the same way ken starr committed in 1998 to ie identifying at least a dozen instances of impeachable conduct, if mueller doesn t want to answer if he thinks the four instances he outlined were obstruction of justice, there is no legal reason, no president reason, no other reason why he can t say these conduct, this misconduct is an impeachable offense. they should push him. democrat haves taken, have taken kind of a soft peddle to that and i think that s a mistake because i think what we ll have at the end of this is a test
trying to sow hate and division among us, the truth is that as americans, we have so much more in common that what separates us. let s speak that truth. and let s not buy that stuff that some folks are trying to peddle. on the fundamental issues, we all have so much more in common than what separates us. some will say, well, we need to search to find that common ground. here s what i say. i think we need to recognize we are already standing on common ground. [ cheers and applause ] i say we rise together or we fall together as one nation
in fact, most people who come, who pe cobecome undocumented th years overstay their visa. it is not that they re coming across the southern border. so the answer is that we need to keep educating people, you know, and be a force for good and for knowledge and facts, instead of the misinformation and lies that this president, and some people out there, continue to peddle. julian castro, candidate for president, former hud secretary, thank you for your time. thank you. rejoining me now at the table, raul reyes, immigration attorney. we needed him here. senior adviser and msnbc contributor, we need you all. you re my a-teamers. there s a lot to talk about. you know where i m going. carlos curbelo, you know him, is a miami former congressman, had a little debate with me, in which he said the reason we don t have immigration reform is