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I am manus cranny. Cut to junk is the verdict from standard and poor, the first time in a decade it has dipped that low. Russia expert Ryan Chilcote is here with us. Along with stephen king will be with us, the chief economist at hsbc. Great to have you with us stephen. Ryan, was this something we thought were coming . One person said we have not then asked in terms of the centralbank. It was widely anticipated and came a bit earlier and s p said it would, by the end of the month and the results of the review. It was not entirely priced in. I doubt i thought the head of Sovereign Rating and defended his decision to effectively junk russia and he made the call. In responding to some the russian criticism saying he was overly pessimistic a he said, no, i have a more optimistic view of russian growth than the kremlin itself. How can i be too pessimistic . Hes at one of the problems russia is facing is the socalled rainy day funds and reserve fund and welfare fund are not as big as people

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